rf_capital, yes that would describe my investment strategy. I expect my "investments" to grow with time. The "speculative plays" are for the long haul as well but they are expected to either fizzle out or do extremely well. I will switch Tyhee to investment grade status if they reach certain goals. The first pour is definitely a criteria but I would consider a few steps prior if the POG rises to $2300. The POG depends upon the debasement of the currency so I can not hope to call a top:)