Binder, during these times take your favourite trading vehicle and play the cycle. Mine is SLW. If I get caught on the wrong side of the trade, I don't mind holding. It has a fairly predictable pattern with excellent volume. Take the middle of the trade and get out. I do use margin for these trades. It is considered found money and I use a portion of the profits to purchase stocks such as Tyhee. Thus, I am not emotionally attached as it is considered money that I picked up off the street. Woody