Ike, you are correct. Tyhee is still dead or quiet money until production. Most will not see a return due to lost opportunity costs and a high ACB. My recent purchases, are still quiet money until that time. I have the patience to hold with a low ACB. It could be a rocky road ahead. There was a turning point recently which lifted much risk. Just because I saw what was happening to the SP I am condemed and ridiculed. Nice. The shares bottomed and here we are. I wish only the best for those who held their beliefs. While we wait we can play our favourite silver stocks:) By the way, Hans knows who I am and can contact business associates to verify my statements. I do not hide behind an avatar. Nothing to hide:) Russell