Hi Baires, we shall see if Gary Savage is right predicting the lifting of cartel manipulation as being counterproductive at this phase of the cycle, though I remember from a while ago that Martin Armstrong talked about April as the turnaround point for the gold bull to begin. If Tyhee gets the financing now and begins work on the Sutter mine and mill for short term production it will be nearly perfect timing for the April window. Hanging in as always..... Ike