wish i knew shakey but even if i had some ammo i wouldnt get in yet...we might see that 3.50 we talked about 6 mos ago...problem is that the old is the new...or is it the new is the old?...watch cramers mad money tonite...boone pickeas interview scheduled...with cmi tanking to below 30.00 from 70.00 in a month or so and clne tanking to under 10.00 from 19.00ish he might give some reasonabl guidance...new truck orders are way down in all makes and models...california may renege or delay ports deadlines because of state debt...cant see santa claus being good this year for anyone...ide like to know if our new plant is still on track to start up in feb/09 i think...everyones head is still spinning on everthing...stay safe is my opinion...later...