Thanks for the info Ian. Kinda confirms my thinking too. I was gonna fone Mike but thot he would be swamped. I mite have to call him tomorrow and take him out for coffee with a stronger jolt in it. I would think he is buzzing about  now.  Anyway thanks again for the info and pls keep my email address in case there is anything else coming down the pipe. I will email you when I get my call tonite if there is any difference from your info