All this doom and gloom has drawn me out of my silence on the sidelines. I take issue with those saying that Winfield shares have no value. When the events of the week came about, I was about to run out of toilet paper. Now I figure I can get at least a month's use out of my share certificates... I won't be flushing them away though. I'll save them up and send them off to David Baines who'll no doubt recycle them in one of his columns... HH