I agree, Cinema Show. There is no 'market' for graphite as there is for say, gold. Graphite trades 'by appointment' directly with end users. This is the reason 'the market' does not get ZEN and never will. So this is exactly what AE is doing with the whole company. He is dealing with over 20 end users (NDA's) that he is 'tweaking' to show them exactly what they can expect from Zen graphite. What better way to market a mine can you think of than talking directly to expert end users who are the only people interested in your product? Boxterfan