i know this won't endear me to many investors, even my fellow longs on ZEN. but manipulation just doesn't happen to near the degree that most think it does. it has a negative expectation. it will lose money many more times than it makes it.

what happened to ZEN today was not unexpected to me after reading the news release. but there is a paradox. the news release was good. technically, it further derisked ZEN. but ZEN is trading on sentiment, not fundamentals. there are many tired shareholders that wanted to get out because the news wasn't the news they wanted to see. the average investor is not nearly as knowledgeable as the people on this board generally are. they will make more mistakes than the people here will. they wanted to see the PEA and got tired of waiting for it. sentiment is bringing the share price down. sentiment will make it rise again. newer investors are coming aboard as some of the older ones leave. it the long run it will be good for the stock.