Seemed like a pretty balance interview and AE told the ZEN story, I can't say I heard much spinning, ZEN has now completed a compliant RE and a PEA and has shown that it has an economically viable mineral discovery with a pretax NPV of $C 769 million. Seems like a pretty good story no spinning necessary. Especially since virtually every number used to generate the PEA was IMO very conservative and will likely be improved in some cases very substantially as the company continues to develop. Definitely the best graphite investment out there.