Smokey, I am not answering you to either agree or disagree with your opinions and assumptions. What I do have issue with is people that persist on trying to convince others of their mismanaged ways in investing in a particular stock yet at the same time readily admit that they are waiting to get back into such a losing proposition. If you truly believe your truths then why have you not moved along. I think the answer, like I said, is that you "see some very real value in this graphite find." You have, as I said, made your points and others can take what they may from these comments. I don't think we need to hear excerpts of a negative campaign over and over again and it is this persistence that makes me feel like you may very well get put in the category mentioned. As per your request, I will go back to Aug. and read your posts. I have had my say and will not be responding to any further of your posts. This is not going to turn into a senseless spitting contest. Thanks for your thoughts Smokey and good wishes in your future stock picks. the deputy