Tesla here .. Tesla there.

Can we agree that as long as there is no direct PROVEN relation of ZEN.V and Tesla (in any way) we keep this as OFF TOPIC?

ZEN has exactly zero options as of today - It is Tesla that has EVERY OPTION;

 and it is TSLA that also quite likely has a very concise plan of where it is going. ZEN doesn't have anything out of the ground yet - so how on earth do you think TESLA should plan ahead with any potential ZEN product?

And don't even get me started to compare this incompetent ZEN mgmt with the likes of Elon Musk and his executives.

Strategic thinking is very welcome - throwing in any TSLA news and not marking it as OT is pure hype to me.

Even though I would love to have TSLA and ZEN.V related news - we are not there yet and may never be - so stop making assumptions and subliminal dillusions in order to lure people in with promises that quite likely cannot be held.

Who knows what the next gen batteries will be made out of - if you have any relevant information tying ZEN.V to TSLA ... go for it and present it to us all asap - PLEASE.