Rich, it's going to hopefully take more than a half rate smooth talking salesman to smooth you over again, I mean come on, the share price is what says it all and he can blame the others till the cows come home but he has been there for a while now and nothing to improve the share price at all! I personally know a bunch of people ready to dump in a big way just to get out of this catastrophe before the TSX comes callin' so in my opinion he is out of time!