The coming IP news should not have been tied to the quarterly report,.... Yep, possible they will issue something else on IP -- like a "Letter to Shareholder" -- before the end of this Q. Who knows? While the current news is not very good, the future is better than the past as we actually have customers and orders this time around the block. Now, we can bitch about the units volume of those customers. Hey Frank, is it time for a little visit? Inquiring minds would like to know what you think. John