DB, i disagree with you on that.  Mangement is always well paid for what it does.  If the product that they are selling is good it will be reflected in not only the pps but for the options available to them.  The shareholders in our case have paid for the continued increase of shares that were released. It effected the value of the shares we owned.  WEe deserve a refund of that maoney since we were the ones that kept the company alive.   To just leave it with the company will only allow them to take their share of lulu's and thats B.S. to me.  Give us the dividend.  If this stock is worth anything it has to be for what it produces.  If the product is good the stock will go up on its own.