Catsfive,thanks for taking the initiative. I have sometimes learned something from employees that the boss won`t tell or doesn`t see. Of course in the past the EDIG ``cult`` has driven our partners crazy and so I have refrained. But I have been itching to call Wencor and had no nerve to do it. You picked a really good time to call, while the cat`s away the mice will play! When the bosses get back from Hamburg I wonder what they will say if they hear of your call. I`m encouraged by your info, look forward to hearing what info Cindy may send and think the last few posts about all this are exciting and informative. PS. Where is ORY?