Not sure who you are referring to Benwaiting- let me clarify one thing from a personal viewpoint - I'm not a basher & never will be. I'm a cheerleader - I perfer to negotiate & reason where possible. I have a lot of learning to do regarding this particular field EDIG is engaged in - it will take some time for sure. Electronics is not my field, not am I a computer whiz (my kids & their spouses all put me to shame - 1 son-in-law is a computer genius in every respect - works for Oracle)- am more comfortable with gold/antimony, China's changing priorities etc.