During the question and answer period of that meeting Fred said something to the effect that numerous or many companies had been presented the information about what Nunchi could do. Not sure if this meant signing NDA's or what, but back then we had hired a company specifically tasked to notify companies that we felt might be interested. I then asked, how many is many or numerous, Fred paused and glanced to the back of the room looking toward Alan Cocumelli, the attorney, when an answer did not immediately come, I asked, is it 50, is it 100? He then said it was more than 50 and less than 100. It was also about this time that Cocumelli mentioned that Microsoft was one of the 50 and less than 100 that had been notified. Microsoft was the only specific name mentioned. This meeting was in August 2013.