Completely out of character for Pat, he knows his place, hard for me to swallow.

At the 2013 shm,  pretty sure that was the one, I got there early, struck up a one on one chat with Pat in the back of the room.  Fred was on his way out of the meeting room to do something, saw us and requested we save discussion for the meeting.

We were not discussing anything that was  not public, but he coukd not tell, so politely told Pat to shut up...lol.

I have seen Pat differ questions to Fred or Allen, even the sec advisor too.

I'm just having a hard time thinking he'd start this stuff at such a critical time no less.