Gibbster, honestly sorry to see you exit. I agree that contrary opinions are healthy; Painful but healthy. Please tell us that you'll leave the door open at least a crack, so that when "this thing" really takes off, we can count on you attending our gathering in NYC once Charley puts it all together, ---BILL---- P.S. Never forget that I, and I believe Alton, owe you a beverage of your choice at that gathering---not redeemable elsewhere! P.P.S. To the rest of you, my calendar indicates that it's January 6th,2014. Let's have a collective hip-hip-horray for the return of our favorite MOT, His Excellency Ahmad bin Nasser Al Mehrzi.