when the ruthless bankers want to keep you down there is not much if anything can be done to stop it ,maybe the s.e.c. but then again they are a joke ,we had a few exclent news relase,s and we still went down ,it has nothing to do with karren ,when you have someones heay boot on the back of your neck ,there is not alot anyone can do untill they get bored and go away .And the ones that want to spin of b.c. has anybody ,realy thought how much we would acutally get for it ,i think it would be a mistake to get pennies for it. all just my own oppion, am i happy of course not ,its the vulture exchange ,it happens all the time