did you listen to lori's cc? she said the holes were in the permiter, and so far the only results we have are from a very small portion of them. we don't have enough info yet to tell us what we have one way or the other. i'm not worried about the current sp. i'm not selling so it doesn't matter. fighting among ourselves doesn't accomplish anything. i'm not here to argue i'm here to support my investment. when you have facts to prove quantech and titan results are just "pretty colors" then you can say all that you want about it.