I choose to believe in the titan24. There is a reason Quantecs reputation is what it is. Something is there in great volume and according to Lori at the 2011 AGM, they just keep finding gold with only trace elements found otherwise. I dont know her exact words but the question of whether or not other metals were found was asked, and this was the meat of the response from what I remember. Its easy to get distracted with all the noise surrounding this but I dont buy this inversion artifact crap and unless a quantec expert comes out to tell us all their very expensive program was all a glitch, ill believe the titan over some negative posters online. We so need the greens to win this for us imo. Ill have to listen to the 2011 recording again.. GO GREENS!