Do you feel nobody has tried conferring with management in the past? How do you think things came to be as they are now? Do you feel everyone here follows the leader or came to their own conclusions based on their own experience? Maybe you will have better luck. Maybe you could do all investors here a favor by finding out if the tesoro claims have been renewed and management has proven their worth. Imo. Many here claim to get the run around regularly. I would love to move forward but i think many would like some answers. Imo.