Headbop. The only credibility that has been, and is continually destroyed, is that of the hacks like you who avoid, twist, and distort what any idiot can see has occurred here. Not only the information available, not yet available, and no longer available, but also the course of events and the timeline of those same events tells anyone paying attention what has occurred, and is still occurring. The picture paints itself. It doesn't need Rick or murray or Hogtown or any other online poster to do it. Management did it. Because the fine line was carefully considered, does not mean people have not seen what has so far taken place and it does not mean people are incapable of reasoning. If it was as simple as discrediting and blaming murry and sculpin based on the basher "pass the buck there's no gold" fabrications, you would have had success long ago as I have no doubt you have in the past, in other situations. I'm guessing, hundreds to several thousand investors, would have chocked this up to a bad call and moved on if you and the others like you had any credibility. The problem you are having is that EVERYBODY HAS paid attention. That problem only goes away if everyone does well imo. Be the mistake that is forgiven. Not the one you slipped up on.