You're mistaken redgreen. You are arguing. I disagree with you and I'd like to see you back up your outlandish claim with some current numbers, if you have any. Historical "facts" are of no value due to the fact that steady production has only been achieved recently. You've still presented no facts on why UC is bleeding cash. This is supposed to be a "basher" free forum. I consider you a basher and will no longer reply to your garbage. SMF