PMB... You are quite right, my friend, our views and outlooks are very similar.

It is hard to express opinions such as ours without being labeled bashers.

Bashing a stock works for people who short the stock, I suppose. But, having held this stock for over eight years (at least portions of what I have purchased over the first four or five years), I can assure you that I would be overjoyed by a substantial increase in share price. Considering the reverse split (if I am remembering correctly), my shares are now worth far less than a penny on the dollar. The share price would have to rise substantially for me to get too excited, though.

I'm not here to encourage people to buy, or to sell Vyta. I am here to share my experience. I learned lessons the hard way with Nanopierce, and I believe some of those same lessons apply to Vyta. I don't think there is anything unhealthy about waiting for the commercial proof, as opposed to buying into the speculation. Sure, an investor would miss the initial run; but, that's a reasonable risk for a penny stock.

Best wishes, PMB