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Message: AN UPDATE WITH DICK GUSELLA

AN UPDATE WITH DICK GUSELLA

posted on Nov 21, 2007 11:56AM

November 21, 2007


AN UPDATE WITH DICK GUSELLA


PRESIDENT OF CONNACHER OIL & GAS


(From November 20, 2007)



We are in a bit of a bizarre world right now, where oil prices


seem to be hitting ever new highs and yet oil stocks are sliding,


sometimes viciously in a market that seems to be centered


around the debt crisis in the U.S., but hitting stocks


worldwide.



It’s time to go for an update with Dick Gusella, the driving


force behind Connacher Oil & Gas, the one stock that is only


about a month away from production on its massive Great


Divide Project and at least it’s one oil and gas stock that relatively


speaking, is hanging in there.



David Pescod: First of all Dick, how about this oil and gas


market? I haven't seen anything like it. Oil hits new records


highs of $95 and everything in the oil and gas patch from


Exxon to ABC Resources is going the other way. What's going


on? Is the market telling us that commodity prices are


going to fall, or what?



Dick Gusella: I think the market is telling us there is a credit


crunch out there which could lead to a recession or a recessionary


like environment for awhile until the excesses are


wrung out of the system. We know a lot of deals have been


pulled from the U.S. debt market as investors are reluctant to


refinance out equity turned into debt with the LBO rage that


went on for awhile. On the other hand Connacher just raised


US$600 million because we had a good project - financing


Algar or Pod Two at Great Divide - and a sound business plan


that attracted investors. This new capital will allow us to


move ahead with minimal if any dilution. We set aside interest


for the first year's requirements while our cash flow from


all components - conventional production, including gas at


marten creek, the refinery and Pod One ramp up and then we


will have substantial coverage and we have no principal to be


repaid for eight years. Seems like a good plan to me and we


have stress tested it and we remain solid and viable to much


lower price levels even below our base case modeling of


US$65 for WTI.



D.P: Natural gas looks like it's becoming a disaster in the


Canadian Prairies. Any thoughts about what next for that


sector?



D.G: This is a temporary thing which will be self-correcting


as investment slows down in response to lower prices, the


royalty issue and difficulties for many players to access new


capital for growth and also not find a safety valve or exit


strategy through the trusts.



D.P: It's time for a hard question and it's something some


people are talking about and that's Connacher's diversification


(or should we use the hard words) deworsification.


Currently the Montana refinery has seen very


small margins - the purchase of Luke Oil a natural gas producer


could have been done today for $0.20 or $0.30 on the


dollar and now Petrolifera is having trouble. Your comment?



D.G: I think that is unfair and reflects a lack of real insight


and understanding into why we are doing what we are doing.


Our integrated strategy is well thought out and will increase


our netbacks over being a naked bitumen producer


by over 50 percent. So with a US$65 WTI instead of a modest


netback of say $22 at the wellhead after op costs and


royalties- yes with the new royalty scheme - we can look to


something like $37 per barrel produced without the full


hedge on the refining side. Obviously at higher prices, with a


constant differential, we do even better than that. As an


aside, our little refinery in Montana was one of two out of


eleven or thirteen refiners that reported in Q3 2007 that had


higher margins that the prior year - the other being frontier -


because they capture part of the heavy oil differential, which


is what our integrated strategy is about Dave.



Now anyone who says you could have bought Luke at 20 or


30 cents on the dollar has never done a deal or probably


never will. Our major concern in heading into production at


the oil sands in a post Katrina world was to eliminate one of


the big risks of burning natural gas to make steam - exposure


to post Katrina type gas prices which would impact on


operating costs for 25 to 40 years. We are physically


hedged now which improves our integrated netback and can


thus avoid what I jokingly call the triple witch of high oil diluent


prices, high gas prices and high differentials leading to


low wellhead netbacks. Seems to make sense in today's


world for various reasons and on top of it all, we are processing


some bitumen at our refinery to get an assay if you


will so we can avoid being discounted by other refiners


when they take our dilbit from Pod One and we are also for


the moment self sufficient in diluent by using our naphtha


from our refinery. This strategy is one of the reasons we


could raise debt money in the U.S. market in my opinion and


the investors concur with our approach. One final point -


our little refinery has more than paid out since we bought it -


including the cost of product inventory - in March 2006.



D.P: I guess the big question is Petrolifera. They had quite


a run based on success in Argentina, but now it looks like


Argentina is doing an Alberta Royalty Review-type of operation.


Do we know what it means yet? And how good or bad


it might be?




D.G: It ultimately does not mean too much except for the short term - the policy removes access to improving or


higher prices. I don't think it will last too long as Argentina is close to becoming an importer of energy and then


what? Pay world price for imports - a leakage in the economy - and suppress your domestic industry? Logic would


suggest otherwise. We are still doing very well in Argentina. As we indicated in our recent releases we keep making


discoveries, we have a waterflood coming on which will enhance productivity and we have the financial wherewithal to


explore and drill and still make decent returns - not as high as we would like to see - but we are profitable, unlike most


other smaller companies active in Argentina, we have low historic finding, development and op costs and we keep


finding new oil which will become evident as we ramp up production in early 2008 and beyond. And we have Peru and


Colombia as well which many other small companies do not. Our Peru blocks look good and we have Mr. Peru - Gary


Wine - as our president. We are very optimistic about it and I bet you an Edmonton nickel that people will be salivating


about our structures and their potential as we move into the second half of 2008.



D.P: Back to Connacher and the major asset on the company and that's on the Great Divide Project. We should only


be about a month away from production. Is there anything to be concerned about?



D.G: No.



D.P: Is everything on schedule?



D.G: Yes.



D.P: You filed all the paperwork for starting the next phase for the second Pod. Have you heard anything hopeful?


D.G: We have already had our sir's or supplemental information requests back and I think our answers are either filed


or nearing filing back to the EUB. This is a quicker turnaround than before. We will start - have already in fact - preordering


long lead items to beat the inflation bug - and while we have provided for a higher budget with a great level for


contingencies and for infrastructure as we are not next door to the highway like Pod One - and we have some scope


changes - we are funded Dave!!!



The annuity like long term production from the oil sands is an investor's dream - we like everyone are leveraged to the


price of oil but we are budgeting at US$65 for WTI and last time I looked it was US$95. While a strong Canadian dollar


has mitigated the benefits of higher prices, it is still pretty good and the market can't get us down as we are moving


ahead with confidence and conviction. Let's talk again when Connacher is at $8 and Petrolifera is back to $20!



D.P: Thank you so much, Mr. Gusella!

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