It also clear that Opec has no impact on the oil traders.

When we got up last years they always talked about ramping up productions but still price get up.Now they will stop the slide and despite they lowered more then 2 mil. again nobody believes this is the end.

When do we have stockpile figures again.

Sometimes I'm wondering and maybe some of you when I'm riding on the highway it's still full and when I go to the city near by people are still sitting in pubs and eating in restaurants and shopping streets are also full with people?Then I asked myself is this such a severe crisis?

About Algar.I feel OK with DG decission to curtail pod 1 but I don't like so much the fact he stopped Algar construction.If he didn't and finished he could start up when the time was Ok.Now we face a delay of probably a half year.

If MRC faces same problems with crack spreads like Valero ,not much to expect for next Q 4 too.