Yes. it does sound like Copper Fox has a value of what they think the project is worth based on the 2013 FS and recent work. The problem is that without the NI 43-101 it is not usuable number other than with TECK. They (CF) could say the total value is $4B and our share is worth $1B. and TECk could say "potentially" but as we (TECK) see it, its only worth $1B and your share is $250M. If you think are valuation is too low, get a NI 43-101 and prove it knowing we dont have the $$$ to go and do it. then in lies the rub. Since we have almost no control over that aspect, i for one would like to see if we could somehow off-load van Dyke (We have a current pre-tax NPV from the 2015 PEA of $US 213 million, the updated resource estimate has increased a portion of the mineral resource category from Inferred to Indicated as well as added 400 million lbs of soluble copper, we can do inhouse estimates to increase the NPV but wouldn’t be able to publish without an updated economic assessment). Then we could have some $$$ and be in a better position with regards to getting a proper value for SC and be able to bring other partners to the dance in terms of selling for a fair value.