Karl, I am just repeating statements from a source. The credibility of the source is for you to determine. I think this is a situation where the twist and turns took longer than anyone expected. I think the tone of the conversatiopn on 7/13 was it would be done near the origianl date. I think since then a lot more logistical issues came up. He detailed quite a few things that took time to do. It seemed from my conversation that most of them where on there way to completion or completed. I do not want to repeat the laundry list as I did not take notes and don't want to print inaccuracies. You can call Richard and try to nail it down more but he may not give you more details. His tone was upbeat but guarded. As far as the permit I think he is just guarded because it was promised before and not delivered. As we all know there is no lock in VZ even after getting the permit.