I think that we can officially say that on this date if we do not have a completed JV in writing that we have been duped.

Sorry osmo, but I see no logic in your statement. There is no magic to 1/1/11, just another artificial deadline to miss that makes retail panic. Not very savvy of Crystallex, but not a drop dead date as you state.

Just because the PR guy answers with the company line of a Q4 close, that has no relevance to the JV getting done. Now if you want to revise that to mid-April 2011, then I would have to say that you may have a point since the arbitration deadline looms.