JC, I doubt anyone on here is evil. That wasn't the purpose of my question. The one thing that I know for certain is that you can not guarantee that the shares are worthless and no one here can guarantee that we will get any money back. Agree? So why do you continue this silly debate? Is it your goal to to prove that you may be more right than those that still have hope? I previously tried to respectfully explain to you that it is very irritating to many to keep hearing that the shares may be worthless. Bottom line....... let's chill and enjoy the holidays. None of this arguing will change the outcome.