Do they exist? Haven't seen one significant PR with their name on it which leads me to believe ALL sales are being funnelled through Raymond. This assures them to hit their (lowball) committment, makes more profit for them and the Customer has the assurance of Raymond backing all warranty issues should EFL not be able to perform. I can't say for certain, but after a while, intuition and gut feelings start to make sense

It also means we don't get the steady flow of NR should they bag a good deal. EFL can hide behind the Raymond fog claiming they never quite know what Raymond has on the go. And so this is what we get now, ... mostly silence.