By the way, I was not trying to idolize Soly and Lanman,

...and one more thing mr beetlebee...we were not trying to idolize these chaps either...we are simply trying to immortilizing them...every story needs its legendary figures...and these are them...kinda like UPL had its Hickory...FO has its Soly...as for mrLanman...when webster published the two words mind and boggler...who ever chose to use them consecutively in a sentence, no doubt, had a person like mrLanman in mind...and in our story mrBeetloobasin...and like every tragedy there is one that feels like a loser...and that would be those that sold when the going got tough...but like a story like 'Rudy' there is the underdog that makes the BigBoyz team and after practice after practice...not only gets to dress for the big game...gets to play and gets a sack on the final play...a sack of cash all the way to the bank...and remember no player in the famed history of irish has been carried off the field since(maybe if they won a game that would change)...we love this game...gofo and g'day