I agree roos we could get agoracom to forward our concerns to management or just plain call, lack of information is a problem with FNC but they are in the midst of setting up at Mcfaulds and getting a new company going with Magpie so it may be there just isn't any information worth giving us at the moment. None the less we are a publicly traded company and we need to be in the know about the things that go on behind close doors so we can better judge our respective positions in the companies we hold.