I think you misunderstood me, Geofan. My point was that you're assuming Granger is to blame for his no longer being welcome on the Fancamp board. And which "case" would you be resting, anyway? The only point you've made is that Peter is a good geologist which isn't something anyone was disputing to begin with. But you've been so busy trying to prove that one point that you've simply glossed over the fact that he's a horrendous chief executive officer. You don't seem to understand that yes...he has assembled some good properties, but he has absolutely no ability to market those properties. That's how it has been for the past 20 years, and that's how it will continue to be if changes aren't made immediately. To think that "this time will be different" is foolish. There is absolutely zero evidence that Peter will change his behaviour and all the evidence in the world that he won't.