I"M sure the ones who are short treasuries are saying the same thing as we are today. I think it's looking more and more likely that the explosion in ECU will come when the dam bursts in the treasury market. It's going to be a huge wage of money flows one day in the jpm's. I'm thinking more and more that I would like ECU to just save up the money and pay cash for a mill in 3 to 4 years.