"ps, the real reason for this post is that ECU will move up when we capitulate, so maybe i can fake it out...pic"

You should know by now that the market does not go for fakes. Only the real deal will do.

Looks like another day like yesterday, general market down big, PM's start out with guns blazing and slowly fade away into the downward swirl of the overall market.

We had many days like this a couple of years ago. No fun.