Mikeyman, I think our oil guys wish they could bail out the big 3. What we have been going through, they are experiencing now. No one wishes bad news for anyone - especially at Xmas. I think govt will try to help the big 3 but there will be strings attached. I do hope that one thing that goes by the wayside is any kind of bonuses. Some of the union package entitlements have been very nice - I suspect some of those things might be discussed.