Thanks,Greeneyes. You don't need to apologize. I like writing late in the evening and it gives me a chance to make some kind of sense about the essense.

Have a great day you wonderful poster. PS I generally never do call myself an Irish American. We were into that in the discussion. It's generally only people in the Northeast section of the United States and various minority ethnic groups that do this because of their pride and respect for their elders who may have felt the sting of abuse during their lives. Thanks. Have a great day. Your friend, Oscar