If you look at all 4 entities, there is a problem with each.

I am a tremendous fan of all 4. Mistakes have been made by each organization, some much more serious than others.

The Patriot that made mistakes that we all love cost us hard in the piggy bank but they are on the road to contrition with their several outstanding moves the past couple of years.

The Patriot of todays discussion made a serious error and was turned in by his previous assistant where animosity had developed.

The next Patriots of which I spent 27.5 years performed monstrously in the Abu Gharib prison complex breaking all the rules of the Geneva Convention and in numerous other places in its 200 year history.

The Catholic Church performed through their priests/ministers such monstrous attrocities that they have damaged the fabric of the organization.

I love all these organizations, but being human, they sometimes each act in immoral, irrational ways.

Ours, PTSC to a lesser degree, the Catholic Church to a larger degree.

Each has had to pay severely with their reputation tarnished to a point that in the worst case it brings tears to the eyes of the saints. They are emotional, gut wrenching issues.

To explain:

Belichick cares too much for the game he is involved in; the leaders of the Army cared too much for the outcome in Iraq; the leaders of PTSC cared too much and got involved in a lousy financial deal; and the Catholic Church was so insisitent to having only males live up to the ways of Christ that they brought in evil because they cared too much.

Some would say that in each case they did not in fact care enough, that they cared too little. The ego of man expressing itself in 4 various ways allowed evil to enter the picture. This happens because we all are human and its hard to see the trees for the forest.

By marking these OT, you have the opportunity to skip the message and the person writing down their message has the opportunity to get something off their chest.

On the real discussion at hand, the Patriots right now are right now the most dominant football team in the NFL. This will change. A crack in the armor has occured. It is difficult to see how great of an effect it will have on the franchise. It will hurt them definitely. There is so much deception in all professional sports today, that they are undermining the infrastructure of the sport. From paying way too much money, to drug abuse, to illegal betting and on and on.

There are, however, our heroes and for most, this is worth the price of admission.

I greatly appreciate all the discussion but don't let anger destroy the friendships that you make on this board. Hard feelings develop and it is unfair to you to have to live with them and let evil win its small battle.

 Regards to all and GLTAL.