It sounds like you think that it is impossible what I have said...(But do not want to put words into your mount...)

From waht I observed I think it is happening... I have level & realtime and have watched my trades go through & move bid... M&M will accomadate the direction they wish... a sell (when they want it to go down..) and buys will sit...

Well Etrade will not take e- orders only Phone orders... Why??? They stated strange price action.... they have left this restriction on... E-trade seems to believe it could be happening too...

mostly my thoughts... observations ...& some facts