I am hardly an expert on this subject However, I have followed all the arguments on both sides. I have to say Lamb, and Biajj and others have sold me that there is something up. You add the fact that this company (the same few players) have done nothing for the share holders and everything for themselves and friends. The only thing I would add is that many times the debate has been made about share holder votes. I would like to know when if ever anything these guys wanted got voted down. many of the things through the years did not make since to me and it has never been close for any vote that I know of. To Many of the insiders have to many shares. So here we are waiting for another beating I sure hope we are all wrong! By the way Sedley you are one funny person I wish it was on a better subject.