You shouldn't say those things, it ruins the delusional perception that the boogeyman is always out to get them. If I had a nickel for everytime a stocks MM's were blamed I'd be posting from the Carribbean. The MM profession would have to be the largest in the world to continuously control so many companies, as alleged. I know shady stuff goes on bu,t be real here. PTSC has always been dominated by swing traders during our periods of price appreciation. The only thing that bothers me has been my unwillingness or more correctly, lack of ability to participate. PTSC is the first stock I've owned that a solid pattern has emerged for 3 years straight when price appreciation was underway. I could have paid for my shares 10 times over if I had the guts to swing trade.