I just got off the phone with Ken Blakeman and asked him how the conference went. He said it went ok and that he really shouldn't be speaking with me and that I should contact PTSC. I told him that I understood. However, like so many other investors, I am frustrated with PTSC because of their lack of communication with investors. I asked him how long he has been affiliated with PDSG. He said that he has been on the payroll for about 1 year and for what it's worth he is very bullish on PDSG