srandl, I accept your apology. I apologize in return for the 'liar' remark and retract it.

Actually, I don't think I'm that much smarter than anyone else here, nor am I that articulate in person, although I do write well when given the opportunity to consider my words. And common sense is absolutely essential in the running of a successful business. However, it is very easy to make fun of those whose positions are fixed and who take themselves so seriously as to believe the notion that Obama's election win can only be described as catastrophic. Bluntly, I include you in that group who post here expressing that view. You also have avoided answering the question I posed rather than enter into an unwinnable discussion.

It's unfortunate that views on Bush, Obama and all previous Presidents and other public figures are painted here in such black and white terms. This forum is not representative of the views of the majority - I know this first hand, having visited the United States on numerous occasions over the past few years and in private written communications with Americans.

I'm here for a few minutes each day because I'm entertained (and occasionally angered) by those who post only to reinforce each others extreme opinions. I know that it's a case of a small minority making a lot of noise far out of proportion to its actual influence on any future election outcome.

Obama may not win a second term; I'm fine with a Republican winning back the White House, but if a Republican does win, it will be despite the views expressed by Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity and the rest of the nuts, not because of them. It's all about winning the centre.