Problem is that this kind of stuff has absolutely nothing to do with real Retail Investors. It is maybe part of the game played by those knowing how to manipulate and them characters playing against the lii informed gamers and sad folk who foolishly place "Stop Loss Orders" on the advice of their Investment Coaches or Account Advisors. If you continue to play these little propaganda games with out looking closely at there Real Value (NOT much at all to TRUE INVESTORS in this one just posted) and continue to FAIL in providing complete and full knowledge, then what are us wiser better informed INVESTORS to think of your quality in posting to this or any Forum? truenorth, be careful, for you should desire credibility. It will be one of the best assets you possess on a personal level. Give it up, even for a brief moment and it is diminished forever! Old Joe PS: It is tiresome to be reading such swill and not respond. Keep it on the Swill Forum (The embarrassing McFaulds place)!!!