I do not think of you as a basher and just as you have difficulty stating ALL the details and supporting thoughts behind your posts, so do I and I am sore that goes for many others as well. Most posters could likely post a book on the reasoning behind their basic thoughts but who has the time to do this or read such detailed considerations. That is but one reason why many (such as myself) tend to generalize (not wanting to give reasons or excuses for others let alone myself) and refer to items already covered.... Every one needs to have their own prespective and rely on their own DD. When I first began to post on this Forum, I made it clear that, for the sake of swiftness (for me a bit laboured in more than one respect), I would rather be BLUNT in statements as that would allow to cut through clutter and allow others to use their own minds to their own advantage and not struggle with nuances... So, don't get your self all out of joint (note: I am not now making reference to your nose!) unless you like that. Another thing I mentioned quite some time ago as that I have no problem with 'Time and Place' type discussions. As in right time and place. The overall discussion calibre is of such high quality that it is difficult indeed to have it narrowly restricted to what is happening to Noronts share price alone, as large picture items and issues do appear to be having considerable impact in general and also specifically as to what is happening to NOT. Got to go for the rest of the day (evening) so enjoy ALL Old Joe