As for Windfall, with new methods for In Situ Leash of Gold if the Geology in the area is permissible they could well get it into production within 18 months of completion of the ramp. Also, given that they are finding much new High Grade (actually VERY high grade) gold almost at surface, there may be no need to build an under ground mine. Again this would be Geologically dependent. Old Joe PS: I am trying to get other things done and the good discussion here is making that rather difficult.